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Attic and Cathedral Ceiling Ventilation and Ice Dam Protection

May 15, 2009

This article is about ice dams1
and their prevention. Ice dams
can occur in any northern or
high-altitude climate,2 but they
are more prevalent and troublesome
in areas where there
are frequent or daily freeze/thaw cycles. In
the far north, where it gets very cold and
stays cold and snow covered for most of the
winter, ice dams are not as severe unless
there are gross inadequacies in the roof,
attic, or cathedral ceiling assembly.
Ventilation requirements referenced in
the building codes are usually not adequate
for cathedral ceiling ventilation without
adjustment.3 Mathematical formulas have
been developed to calculate the thermal loss
of air passageways.4 Test chambers have
since verified the mathematical formulas
and graphs that have been developed. These
formulas and graphs can be used to size the
air passageways needed under the roof deck
in cathedral ceiling assemblies with various
airway openings, insulation values, slope,
and length of the roof/ceiling assembly to
prevent ice dam formation.5
Attic and cathedral ceiling ventilation,
roof sheathing condensation, and the study
of ice dam formation on sloped roofs is not
yet an exact science. The first documentation
about ice dam conditions at the eaves
appeared in an 1899 textbook.6 The 1/300
net-free ventilating area requirement was
first promulgated in 1942 by the Federal
Housing Administration (FHA) with very little
research to back it up.7 By the 1960s,
the 1/300 and later the 1/150 requirement
had been adopted into all of the building
codes, but the numbers were still arbitrary.
In the last decade, there have been
numerous studies and research projects
that indicate that vapor drive and condensation
in the roof assembly can also be controlled
by means other than venting from
and to the outside.8 The NRCA Manual9 calls
these compact or warm roof assemblies.
However, in northern climates, nonventing
methods must also include additional design
features to prevent ice dam formation.
Consequently, the most effective ice dam
pre vention method is usually under-deck
ventilation, where this method is feasible.
Roofs with numerous skylights, dormers,
chase protrusions, and other design
complications that prohibit uniform soffit
intake, uniform internal airflow, and upper
roof exhaust make gravity ventilation systems
difficult to achieve. Drilling small
holes in wood joists to transfer airflow from
one joist space to an adjacent joist space is
not effective unless the airflow volume
and pressure are balanced. The author
has often encountered building owners
or managers who proclaim they can’t
understand why some of their problem
areas leak because they have ice dam
protection membrane installed under
the steep-roof covering.
The concept of polymer-modified ice
dam protection membrane sealing
around a nail shank (see Grace’s Ice &
Water Shield® Product Information Sheet
or literature from manufacturers of similar
products) is helpful in preventing
leaks from ice dam conditions. It is a significant
improvement from the previous
method of two sheets of roofing felt
cemented together with asphalt roof
cement. However, it is not reasonable to
conclude that this polymer-modified seal
around a nail shank is going to be permanently
100% effective, especially in
ice dam areas.
Some of the ice dam protection membrane
failures the author has witnessed
Ice dams can be more than 2 ft thick. have been due to wrinkles and back laps
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in the membrane application that are
not difficult to explain. Other failures
have been at shingle nails that were not
driven straight, leaving a gap on one side
of the nail shank, or roof sheathing
panel that moves with expansion and
contraction of the structure, causing the
nail hole in the membrane on adjacent
panels to elongate. Moisture content of
the wood sheathing also causes dimensional
changes in the roof deck, resulting
in movement of the membrane on
adjacent panels around the nails.
The NRCA Manual states, “Ice dam
protection membranes cannot be relied
upon to keep leaks from occurring.
Careful consideration of roof ventilation,
insulation, and project-specific detailing
for particular climatic conditions is
vital.”10 To help understand the demands
placed on the ice- and water-type membranes
around the fasteners, visualize a
thick-walled balloon made of modified
asphalt membrane sitting on a flat surface,
filled with just enough water to fill
out its shape without a lot of hydrostatic
pressure. Now, visualize a few nails penetrating
the sides of the membrane from the
inside out. It may hold water for a while, but
if the fastener shank is wobbled back and
forth or if the membrane is slightly
stretched to simulate differential deck
movement, at some point it will probably
start leaking around the nail shanks. ice
dam protection membranes behind ice
dams will also leak if some of the previously
mentioned defects or dimensional
changes occur in the membrane or substrate.
Keep in mind that the best ventilation
system can be ineffective if there is excessive
heat loss into the attic or ventilating
airways of cathedral ceilings. Since all of the
reinsulation efforts after the first oil embargo
of the 1970s, great improvements have
been made in the depth of insulation in
northern attics. These have improved the
thermal insulation capabilities, but have
also stopped up a lot of ventilation air passageways
and overlooked a lot of warm air
infiltration. Judging only from personal
experiences (at a higher ratio of problem
sites, which admittedly skews one’s perception),
I would hazard a guess that there now
may be more BTUs lost to warm-air migration
than to thermal-conductance loss.
Recommendations for Steep-Sloped Roofs in
Northern Transition Climates:
1. Keep heat sources such as furnaces,
heat ducts, exhaust air, and highhat
light fixtures out of the attic. If
they have to be there, then great
care must be made to keep the heat
out of the attic permanently. R-40
attic insulation is a waste if you also
have heat ducts or plenums with
only R-5. The author has encountered
numerous heat ducts in attics
that were well insulated and may
have been installed correctly but
were spewing heat into the attic like
crazy because a joint had come
apart, tape had lost adhesion, or
insulation fell away.
2. When insulation is added to the
floor of the attic, make sure that the
airflow from the eave or soffit is not
restricted. If there are internal chases
or wall cavities open to the floor of
the attic, they must be covered and
insulated to prevent warm-air infiltration
and conduction into the
attic. Also, where loose-fill (a.k.a.
“blown-in”) fibrous insulation is the
only type used, some sort of
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Ice dams can continue up-slope from horizontal.
restraining material may be needed
at wind-prone corners of the attic to
keep it from being blown back and
leaving the ceiling bare and uninsulated.
3. Vertical stud walls infilled with batt
insulation used to separate warm
areas from cold areas (such as
around heating equipment areas)
should have a rigid covering to stop
air infiltration. The foil or paper
vapor-retarder batt coverings, taped
or stapled to the studs, are not adequate
to prevent air infiltration, and
in time they often fall down, leaving
wide-open holes for warm-air migration.
Also, where batt insulation is
used to blanket a heat source area
(such as heat ducts), some type of
restraining material may be needed
over the problem area because the
next time someone has to get
through that area to investigate a
leak or trace a low-voltage wire, the
batts are going to get all jumbled up
and haphazardly replaced.
4. Simple, two-slope gable or four-way
hip roofs with uniform soffit intakes,
uniform internal air flow, balanced
upper-roof exhaust, and without
complications of valleys or numerous
skylights, dormers, chase protrusions,
or other design complications
may perform adequately with
the code-minimum 1/300 soffit-toridge
ventilation design. The code
alternative using a vapor retarder
can be effective at preventing moisture
migration, but a vapor retarder
does nothing to prevent ice dams.
Also, we find that the amount of in –
take and exhaust works best if it is
balanced 50/50, not the 80/20 ratio
minimum in the code. Another consideration
is that when the roof
slope is lower than 4/12 and/or
there are restrictions in the intake
airways near the eave or space over
the top of the exterior wall, it is more
difficult to prevent ice dams that do
form from resulting in leaks to the
interior. There are some fairly newdesign
eave vents available that are
helpful if there is no other choice,
but in my opinion, they are not as
fail-safe as adequate overhang with
100% perforated soffits and a highedge
truss design.
5. Buildings with more complicated
roofs and attics should be designed
and constructed to have intake and
exhaust to meet or exceed the 1/150
design, not the alternate-code minimum
1/300 design. If there are
large dormers or chases that prevent
the natural, uniform air flow from
eave to ridge, additional ventilation
may be needed at specific spots to
move air around these obstructions.
If there are long valleys in large
roofs, additional ventilation should
be directed to the underside of the
valley. This airflow directional
improvement can be achieved by the
sizing and location distribution of
intake and exhaust openings.
6. Power ventilation is another option,
but great care must be used when
mixing gravity ventilating systems
with power vents. Power vents can
cause exhaust vents to become
intake vents and thereby decrease
uniform intake from the soffit or
eaves where it is most beneficial in
preventing ice dams. If there is
warm-air infiltration, defects in the
attic floor or wall systems’s power
vent may also increase heat loss.
7. Vaulted or cathedral ceiling roof
assemblies should be vented if possible.
However, if there are numerous
skylights, dormers, chase protrusions,
or other design complications
that prohibit uniform soffit
intake and uniform internal airflow,
and there is upper roof exhaust that
makes a uniform gravity ventilation
system difficult, then compact roofs
may be the way to go.
8. A common problem with vaulted or
cathedral ceiling roof assemblies
that were intended to be ventilated
systems is fibrous insulation
pushed up into the ventilation airspace,
blocking or restricting the air
flow. This is addressed in
Tobiasson’s study, as is friction loss
by the rough insulation surface in
the airway. Remember that dimensional
lumber sizes are nominal
dimensions, not actual size, and
that fibrous insulation thickness
may be increased when pushed unto
spaces that are not full-width joist
spaces. The free and open airway is
seldom as big as mathematically
subtracting the specified insulation
thickness from the nominal width of
the framing member. It is easy to
detail an airway on a roof section
drawing, but if there is no allowance
for on-site variations, the airway is
often difficult to achieve during construction.
9. Do not expect ice- and water-protection
membranes to turn a watershedding
roof system into a membrane
system. A membrane system
with nails through it is not a longterm
solution. The valleys around
crickets or saddles have lower slope
in the valley centerline than the
adjacent roofs. Roofs with slopes
less than 4/12 with crickets or saddles
often have valley slopes that are
less than the minimum allowed for
shingles. These areas should be
roofed with a true membrane system
or with a soldered-joint, sheet metal
system.
10. The centerline of cricket or saddle
valleys around roof protrusions,
gable parapets, or curbs should be
half the width of the valley away
from the corner of the protrusion.
When the centerline of the valley
dead-ends on the corner, half of the
valley is obstructed at the very point
that is most difficult to flash.
11. Electric heat-tape systems can be a
good solution to repeated ice dam
formations when all else fails, but it
is far better to solve the problem
that is causing the ice dams.
12. Get and use copies of steep-slope
research articles and design manuals,
some of which are footnoted
below. Then, design, construct,
inspect, and retrofit for problem-free
solutions, not just standard practices
or code minimums.
No one likes inspecting attics. This
author has inspected thousands of attics –
mostly in Indiana and Michigan, but also in
Ohio, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada,
and Alaska. Many of the comments and recommendations
in this article are from insitu
experience and trial and error, not testing
or research. We have successfully mitigated
or stopped ice dam problems on
numerous facilities. However, it is not
pleasant or inexpensive work, and hopefully
the recommendations of this article will
lessen the number of times it needs to be
done retroactively.
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Footnotes
1. The NRCA Roofing & Waterproofing
Manual, 5th Edition, National
Roofing Contractors Association,
10255 West Higgins Road, Rose –
mont, IL, 60018-5607, 2001, Vol. 2,
p. 340, Figure 6.
2. Ibid., p. 339.
3. Wayne Tobiasson et al., “Ventilating
Cathedral Ceilings to Prevent Prob –
lematic Icings at Their Eaves,” Cold
Regions Research and Engineering
Laboratory (CREEL), Proceedings of
the North American Conference on
Roofing Technology, Toronto, ON,
Canada, 1999.
4. ASHRAE Handbook of Funda ment –
als, Chapter 2, Fluid Flow, Venti la –
tion and Insulation, and 32 Duct
Design, American Society of Heat –
ing, Refrigerating, and Air-Con di –
tioning Engineers Inc., Atlanta, GA,
1997.
5. Tobiasson.
6. Anonymous, International Library of
Technology, International Textbook
Company, Scranton, PA, 1899. Re –
print, Chicago Review Press, 1980.
7. W.B. Rose, The History of Attic
Ventilation Regulation and Research,
National Institute of Building Sci –
ences, 1994. Reprinted with permission,
RCI Building Envelope Sym po –
sium, November 2000.
8. Joe Lstiburek, Vented and Unvented
Roof Assemblies, MRCA Convention,
2006.
9. The NRCA Roofing & Waterproofing
Manual, p. 335.
10. Ibid., p. 340.
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Robert W. Humbarger, RRC, CDT, is president of ConSpecT
Services, Inc., South Bend, IN. He has over 40 years of experience
in construction. He is a past director of Region III of
RCI and has been a member of the Credentials (Exam)
Committee and the RCI Research Committee.
Robert W. Humbarger, RRC, CDT
The Japanese roof iris (Iris tectorum) is native to China but
was first described in the west in the 1860s by a Russian scientist,
Carl Maximowicz, who gave it its name. It grows about a foot
tall with a spreading, rhizomatous habit common to most irises.
Leaves are light green, about a
foot long, broadly sword-shaped,
and slightly corrugated down
their length. Flowers are white or
lavender.
In China, where it has been
cultivated since at least the seventh
century, the plant grows on
the ground like any sensible iris.
But in Japan, it was found growing
on the ridges of thatched
roofs. Apparently, this tradition started in Japan
because of a decree by a Japanese emperor during a period
of wartime when it became illegal to waste land in
growing flowers. All available land had to be used for rice
or vegetables.
The main reason for growing the plant was not for its
flowers, but for a white powder that was made by grinding
the roots. The powder was used to create the white
faces of the Geisha girls (and women in general). The
flower is also thought to ward off evil spirits and is said to help
hold the thatch together. So, the plants were moved from the gardens
to the roofs, where they remained until being “discovered”
by science.
In northern Japan, the practice of growing plants on thatched
roofs was called shibamune:  – literally, “lawn ridge.”
Terunobu Fijimori, of the University of Tokyo, writes on the
dying art of shibamune, “It is not yet clear when the practice
began, but on the Japanese islands, especially the Pacific Ocean
side of eastern Japan and the middle part of the mountainous
areas, people have somehow developed the custom of using
plants…[that] can withstand dry conditions to form the ridge of
the roof. Normally, when people covered their roofs
with grass and built the ridge, they would finish by
supporting the ridge with cypress bark or a cypress
beam.
“In Ninohe, in Iwate Prefecture, there [are several] shibamune roofs… They are quite interesting because
they do not look like buildings, but rather, as I look at
the green grass rising thickly above
the swelling brown of the thatched
roofs, something different. From a
little distance, it looks as though
green lines have been drawn
smoothly with a brush from the tops
of the roofs to the sky, and dots of
light above the green swing as the
wind blows.”
The Japanese roof iris is unique
amongst irises because it grows
about as well in the shade as in the
sun. Like all irises, it should be
planted with the rhizomes just at the surface of the soil. The
colony will slowly increase in size, or the process may be accelerated
by dividing the plants in the fall. If happy, it will reseed and
is seemingly immune to pests.
Gerald Klingamanm,
University of Arkansas Division of Agriculture
Fijimori Terunobu,
University of Toyko, “Background of my Work”
JAPANESE ROOF IRIS By Kristen Ammerman